Reflectors, Attackers, and Poppers

First, some housekeeping: I started an informational page for the criminal investigation into the stolen documents retrieved from Mar-a-Lago. It’s here. I’ll be updating it soon.

I. Reflectors

(I assume that readers are familiar with my DOJ January 6 FAQs, which I first wrote in March to address the barrage of panicked questions I was getting.)

It often occurred to me, over the past few months, that many of the misconceptions about how criminal investigations are conducted and much of the misinformation out there occurs because of the way people get their information. Part of the problem is that the world in general, and our system of laws and government in particular, are so complicated. The other problem is that with social media and a 24-7 news cycle, with outlets competing for clicks, droplets of facts get lost in a cascade of irrelevant information and baseless opinions. As a result, even people trying hard to follow and understand the news, become unmoored from facts.

I learned about reflectors from Peter Arenella, a law professor emeritus (UCLA Law) whose specialty is criminal law and criminal procedure. He was also one of the first TV legal pundits for ABC news, which gives him a unique perspective on TV Legal Punditry. In 1990, his piece entitled “The Perils of TV Legal Punditry,” appeared in the University of Chicago Legal Forum.

More recently, Arenella wrote this: (With his permission, I am quoting from something he is currently working on.)

Today’s pundits often act as appeasers instead of educators. They reflect back and reinforce the views of the audience, thereby entertaining their audiences instead of educating them, and thereby misleading them.

I worked for a major network in the 1990s. I started by commenting on high-profile Los Angeles criminal cases —Rodney King, McMartin, Menendez brothers, and OJ’s criminal/civil trials. I either attended these trials, or I closely observed them. The network wanted to expand my role by using me to comment on national high-profile criminal cases that I had not watched. These were cases where I could only rely on media accounts by lay journalists who did not understand the legal complexities involved. I took the work.

My reckoning came when impeachment charges were filed against President Clinton for lying about a sexual affair with one of his staff. A producer wanted me to debate Alan Dershowitz, my former teacher at Harvard Law School. He knew I believed the entire impeachment process against Clinton was a waste of time and resources. Initially, I refused. I pointed out that, as a professor of criminal law, my expertise was not in our impeachment history, which meant I would be commenting as a private citizen. My producer replied, “Peter, our demographics show that our viewers see you as “a more objective academic with no particular political interest in the outcome of this process.”

To my regret, I did that interview. That was when I realized I had fallen prey to the seductive power of being anointed a “national expert” on all legal issues. Embarrassed by my decision to do that interview, I quit my ABC consulting position and returned to my real passion: teaching and writing about important and troubling criminal law issues.

When I started working for ABC News, I naively believed that I could educate the viewing audience about complex criminal law issues. What I learned is that TV legal commentary usually legitimates whatever TV producers view as the current audience consensus about some high-profile case.

Instead of educating the public, far too much televised legal commentary simply serves as a mirror that reflects back to its particular audience what it already believes.

A recent example of a reflective news article based on innuendo and hearsay

First I’ll look at a news article based on hearsay and innuendo, and then a media pundit who reflected that article.

This New York Times article published on July 11 sent panic and anger through the portion of social and mainstream media that had been critical of Merrick Garland:

The article opens with this: “For the past year and a half, the Justice Department has approached former President Donald J. Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election results with a follow-the-evidence strategy that to critics appeared to border on paralysis — and that limited discussions of his role, even inside the department. Then came Cassidy Hutchinson.” (Emphasis added.)

The article thus opens by reflecting popular perception and implies that Cassidy Hutchinson’s testimony changed something.

According to the article, after Hutchinson’s testimony, officials in the department talked about “the pressure that the testimony created to scrutinize Mr. Trump’s potential criminal culpability and whether he intended to break the law.” No source is offered for this. The article then states that much of Hutchinson’s testimony was “new to” investigators at the DOJ and “Ms. Hutchinson’s disclosures seemed to have opened a path to broaching the most sensitive topic of all: Mr. Trump’s own actions ahead of the attack.” (Emphasis added.)

Also according to the article, DOJ officials denied that Hutchinson’s testimony changed anything in their approach.

On July 26, in an NBC interview, Lester Holt (apparently in a follow-up to this article) asked Merrick Garland whether he learned anything new in the J6 hearings. Garland said the DOJ and the Committee have both been engaging in wide-ranging investigations so “it is inevitable that there will be things they find before we have found them, and there will be things we find that they haven’t found.” Garland confirmed that the DOJ is proceeding the same way it has been from the beginning. Thus Garland’s response (no surprise) confirmed what the DOJ spokesperson said: There was nothing that “jolted” the DOJ into changing course.

Nonetheless, here is how social media users (including a few prominent lawyers) reacted to the New York Times’s “Jolted” article:

  • Imagine being JOLTED into doing your damned job
  • If true, it’s a blight on the DOJ.
  • So they weren’t jolted by all the other evidence we’ve seen?

A former prosecutor reflects the “jolted” innuendo and reflects public sentiments

(When I criticize Tweets, I remove the names, but I can’t really preserve the anonymity of a person who publishes an opinion piece that gets widespread attention.) 

On July 11, the same day the “jolted” piece appeared in The New York Times, former prosecutor, Andrew Weissman, also wrote a piece for The New York Times. Like the “jolted” piece, his article, sent waves of panic through left-leaning social media:

The article insisted that Garland is doing it wrong. Support for this opinion included this paragraph:

In other words, he quoted the “jolted” piece that was published on the same day. What is interesting is that the “jolted” piece also provided a link and reference to Weissman’s article. After a number of people wrote to me and said, “Weissman said that Garland is doing it wrong, so Garland must be doing it wrong,” I added a response to my FAQs. (My response: Basically Garland and Weissman have a difference of opinion. Weissman says Garland is using the wrong approach. Garland obviously disagrees. Meanwhile, Garland has access to more information. Why, then, are people assuming that Weissman is right?)

Shortly after Weissman published his piece, we were hit with a barrage of evidence that Trump is the target of more than one DOJ criminal investigation and that the investigations have been going on for some time. As a result, Weissman is now praising the DOJ methods and is Tweeting about how much trouble Trump is in. (If I didn’t remain somewhat irritated by the unnecessary upset he caused in his New York Times opinion piece, I’d be greatly enjoying his tweets today.)

Here is the thing about a reflector: When they reflect our feelings and fears, we feel drawn to them.

How to spot when a legal pundit or expert is a reflector

With great passion and sincerity, they reflect back the mood of the day. Because of a psychological concept called confirmation bias, people tend to trust a reflector.

(To be clear: I am talking about people positioned as experts, not consumers of news.)

An example of a reflector

In June of 2021, this legal expert, a reflector, Tweeted this:

Between November 2020 and the spring of 2021, there was much talk of The Big Lie, a form of propaganda used by totalitarian regimes. This was when scholars like Timothy Snyder explained that a Big Lie was one that, to believe it, you:

  • must disregard the evidence of your eyes and ears.
  • must accept a huge conspiracy theory
  • feel inspired by radical action.

The fact that Trump continued telling the Big Lie after he left the presidency was frightening. The above Tweet reflected back people’s fears while suggesting (falsely) that Garland has the power to make liars stop lying.

Another problem with the above Tweet is that lying is not a crime and the DOJ does not prosecute lies, even Big Lies. If the lie leads to a crime, they can prosecute the crime, but they start by investigating the crime. Starting with a crime and looking for the perpetrator is justice. Starting with the liar and looking for a crime, means starting with a person. Starting with a person and looking for a crime is persecution. 

Here is another tweet from the same reflector:

From something Garland said in a speech, this reflector draws the conclusion that “TRUMP. WLL. BE. CHARGED.” The reflector reflects back the hopes of the audience. Although the reflector positions himself as a legal expert, drawing that conclusion from Garland’s statement required no legal training — and in fact, was overreach.

Here is another from the same reflector:

To the extent that this tweet has anything to do with the law, it is not an accurate reflection of the current scholarship regarding the uses of deterrence and the effects of criminal punishment. It is a prediction, not a fact.

One more: 

This demand for Garland to do something “overt” makes no sense (what the heck does “overt” mean??) but it reflects the growing chatter that Garland needed to Do Something.

Example of a non-expert influence who is also a reflector

People who are not lawyers but have gained a large following by tweeting about legal issues are generally reflectors. These are from a well-known television star. Notice the dates and the amount of engagement his Tweets receive.

August 9, 2021:

October 27, 2021:

On August 8, FBI agents searched Mar-a-Lago.

He Tweeted this on August 11,  three days later.

And this one on August 20:

II. Attackers

Attackers are really good at attacking, but that is all they can do. They generally don’t understand how democracy or the law works, which makes them vulnerable to conspiracy theories. People tend to be frightened of what they don’t understand. I have observed that when an attacker is proven wrong, they generally save themselves by pivoting to attacking the opposition (Republicans in general or Trump in particular) and people will forget all about the mistake.

How to spot when an “expert” or influencer is an attacker

Attackers keep you riled. People are drawn to attackers: Recall that the Facebook whistleblower testified that strong emotions like anger generate the most engagement. If an attacker is attacking someone you dislike, they are also winning your trust by reflecting your feelings.

Example: This influencer’s account grew to 600K followers during the Trump era by attacking Trump. The account was often on target and understood Trump well. With Trump out of office, this attacker turned to attacking Garland. These Tweets are from the past 14 months (June 2021, October 2021, March 2022, and July 2022)

I went to see what this account was saying after Garland authorized the search of Mar-a-Lago. The account continues to attack Garland and the FBI, calling them “criminally negligent” and fell back on attacking Trump, which was always successful:


III: Poppers

Poppers are people who pop things off the tops of their heads. It’s an opinion that comes from the gut. If a popper is popping about his or her area of expertise, it’s likely to have value. Our instincts are often right in matters we know about. But often poppers go outside their area of expertise.

The problem is when pops are mistaken for informed legal analysis.

To be clear: Poppers have every right to pop. (Obviously, reflectors and attackers have the same rights.) The goal isn’t to silence poppers, reflectors, and attackers. The goal is for consumers of news to recognize them and not go into a panic spin each time a popper pops.

Poppers often reflect as well, but that’s because they read a headline, feel a strong emotional reaction, and then express their emotional reaction as if it’s an expert opinion. So there is overlap here, but the fundamental difference is that the reflector reads the room and the popper speaks from emotion.

Example of a legal expert who often pops instead of offering reasoned legal opinions

Let’s follow one popper’s Tweets about Merrick Garland through the year.

This particular legal expert has a following of over a million and regularly appears on TV. He’s so well known that most people will probably recognize him from the following description, but I’m not too worried. A person with a million followers and national celebrity must understand that criticism comes with the territory.

This person is a professor of constitutional law. As far as I know, he has zero experience with criminal investigations and has never prosecuted a case nor worked as a criminal defense lawyer.

On November 6, 2021, this popper wrote:

(The Atlanta matter is a fraction of the size of the conspiracy that the DOJ is investigating, and the Atlanta DA had a two-month head start on Merrick Garland. As of now, both investigations are at the grand jury stage.)

November 8, 2021: 

In the above tweet, the popper is responding to a substack article entitled, “Where oh Where is Merrick Garland” written by Steven Beschloss, who is not a lawyer.

November 11, 2021:

December 6, 2021:

(As an aside, this popper is calculating the statute of limitations incorrectly: The statute of limitations may not have expired if the crime is ongoing, so we don’t know whether this will be charged. It may be. It may not be, depending on the DOJ’s strategy.)

March 31, 2022:

Here, the popper is responding to a New York Times headline: 

Thus he freely acknowledged that he was speaking from impatience. He felt an emotion, tweeted it, and imparted his emotion to a wide audience who believed they were getting legal facts from a legal expert.

IV. Social Media Makes it Worse

🎶Second verse, same as the first. Social media makes it worse.🎶

Yale professor Timothy Snyder talks about what he calls Internet Triggers, which he defines as something a person sees on the Internet, felt triggered by, and then repeats. People see these Triggers on the Internet because they are directed at them. The people are then transformed into repeaters of targeted memes.

The problem with Internet Triggers, according to Snyder, is that “they prevent us from thinking complex thoughts.” Snyder finds this terrifying because democracy depends on us having “some sense of time beyond our immediate outrage.” In Orwell’s 1984, the fictionalized totalitarian government worked on reducing the number of words in the language. Internet Triggers do the same thing by reducing our ability to have complex thoughts.

In his Youtube video series, Snyder Speaks, Snyder compares the Internet to the invention of the printing press. These rapid changes in how we get information can lead to disaster because we don’t know how to handle the sudden bombardment of new information, and we are not equipped to separate misinformation and disinformation from facts (or facts from speculation).

Snyder notes that the Protestant Reformation resulted from the invention of the printing press, and the resulting wars left one-quarter of Europeans dead. In other words, a sudden change in how we get information can cause destabilizing disruptions.

We live in a 24-7 news cycle in which media outlets compete for clicks, and consumers of news are bombarded with a constant stream of headlines, snippets, opinions, and declarations by experts, many of whom were not actually experts in the area they are opining about. Unfortunately, much of news reporting has morphed into entertainment.

The result, as I said at the beginning of this piece, is that droplets of facts are lost in the cascade of irrelevant information and baseless opinions.

We, as a society, must learn to navigate this brave new world of rapid-fire information.

Speaking of news, how about some fun content:

26 thoughts on “Reflectors, Attackers, and Poppers”

  1. Patricia Prickett

    geez, would Merrick Garland have been safer on the Supreme Court? They seem to be able to do whatever they want to from Mount Olympus without repercussions.

  2. First, this is why Twitter is such a menace. It thrives on immediate reactions to news items that haven’t been fully fleshed out and are often wrong. It is extremely limited in how much anyone can say in a single tweet, so facts get lost in the rush to respond. It encourages zingers. It has a vanishingly short half-life. I don’t tweet and never will.

    Second, our media does a crap job of explaining legal issues. It also betrays a refusal to accurately explain what is happening. The latest example is the story of the Mar-a-Lago search warrant affidavit. I have not seen a single news piece that mentions that NO ONE gets the affidavit. The target of a search warrant, in my experience, does not see the affidavit unless and until he/she is actually charged with a crime. Trump is demanding is something that no normal criminal defendant gets. That’s to protect him as much as DOJ. (If he thinks no one on his side will leak it if it’s released he’s deluding himself. In fact, his team does not really want it released because it will contain nothing that helps Trump, and a lot that buries him.) But no one has asked the key question: Why do we change the rules for him? I defended people at the state court level, and I didn’t get the affidavit until my guy had been charged AND I asked for it. They don’t hand it over unless charges are brought.

    A lot of people who know better have spent months getting the vapors and accusing DOJ of inaction, when they had no idea what DOJ was doing at all. This is inexcusable.

    Nice work.

  3. Teri, I’ll have to go back and rethink every Twitter post I’ve ever written or retweeted.

  4. Thank you for this excellent analysis. I have a Ph.D. in experimental psychology (Cognitive/Social) and did my research on how emotions affect our cognitive processes, particularly those that induce errors and stereotyping. Because anxiety over the past 6 or so years has been a large and permanent attachment to my psyche, I’ve been guilty too many times of just ‘popping off’ in the Twitter comments and agreeing with someone’s tweet that spoke to my own fears but which had little basis in fact or analysis. I’ll be more careful in the future because, while comments in and of themselves don’t usually have a broad reach, the steady drip-drip-drip of accumulation does.

  5. Reflectors – A lot of people are supporting (Kash Patel) and disputing(John Bolton) that the president declassified materials and as such he had a right to have them. (The proper way for the president to have the material if it was declassified is to go to the National Archives and make a copy of it, not keeping it and sending it to Mar a Lago)

    Notwithstanding if other criminal acts apply a lot of people are missing the issue even if the papers were declassified the material is property of the US government and DOJ had every right to take them after a subpoena failed. I guess this is the reason the reflectors on FOX, OAN don’t bring up this issue. It is surprising that CNN and MSNBC do not highlight this issue.

  6. Very good post. I guess Trump would fall into the attacker group? I think the level of anxiety from the perceived inaction of DOJ gets juiced up from 24/7 cable and internet but also because the problem hasn’t gone away like Nixon. Trump and his minions are still very visible and continue to exacerbate the situation. I think many were hoping that DOJ would ride to the rescue and put a stop to all of this nonsense. Maybe.

  7. Teri, this is truly excellent material. Thank you! I understand how impatient much of the country is to have these complicated debacles wrapped up and settled, but investigations, thorough ones, ones crafted to succeed, take time. Being a Monday morning quarterback is truly unhelpful. While I freely admit to spending far too much time in front of the boob tube (dating myself here!), waiting for the latest “breaking news.” I am seriously tiring of the pundits who constantly share their analysis of what MIGHT have happened, or where the investigations MIGHT lead. I am reminding myself to take frequent breaks from the 24/7 news cycle, to enjoy the fruits of summer and to be patient. All will be resolved, in time. Meanwhile, get outside and be in nature for a bit. It’s a much healthier look.

  8. Thx for the great analysis, per usual. The problem with those more educated (by ppl like yourself) sitting back and resisting being a “reflector” or “popper” is that the public square will then reflect more heavily the opinions of those trying to muddy the waters with lies (the “attackers” trying to undermine our democracy). I take it all in and try to remain positive, expecting that the law will eventually vanquish the righteous and punish those guilty of crimes. However, I will still “pop” in opposition to GOP attacks, because they shouldn’t go unchallenged. I try to simultaneously share your blog with others to help ppl “zoom out” and see the big picture with the result that we all become more thoughtful and patient citizens.

  9. Thanks in good measure to your writing, Teri, I never got that swept up in vilifying Merrick Garland for any supposed tardiness. Even a layperson like myself can reason that Garland’s work is orders of magnitude larger and more complex than the case before the Georgia DA.

    I’m intrigued by Timothy Snyder’s remarks on the consequences of new information technology, the internet and printing press. He is echoed by Chris Hedges, who bemoans the loss of print culture (books) in favor of images. Snyder is saying that democracy requires reflection, Hedges contrasts the attention span (and “long-form argument”) naturally cultivated in a print-based culture, versus its general diminishment in a social-media world. Powerful, never-ending distractions impede the population from developing beyond a child-level of thinking, is the argument, an authoritarian’s dream. Marjorie Taylor Greene is an expected result.

    Even for someone who understands all this, and yet who is exposed to computers and the internet all day long, but who had the good fortune to grow up decades before social media, it’s an enormous challenge to control it, to titrate “only the good stuff” into my field of attention, and not get sucked in. Even though I don’t often fall for the arguments, I can get thrown emotionally off-base, my buttons pushed, and my health and well-being take a hit. Time and health are lost as I recover. I’m sure everyone on this thread can relate. There is an emotional storm going on “out there” and it’s critical to keep your distance.

    I’ll close with a favorite quote by Marcus Aurelius: “The goal of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself among the ranks of the insane”. Some things never change, but in our age, I would argue the 1) deliberate production of the insane and 2) controlling them for political purposes has reached new levels.

  10. Teri. And here I thought it was just the media outlets vying for the job of future State Media (like Fox News).
    Not so simple as that. Thanks for this stunning clarification. You answered my question most succinctly.
    I still wonder at these “legal experts” lack of expertise as to investigations. Even when they have background for it (Glenn!), they’re just as misinforming as the non-experts. It’s insulting Garland and all the people in his department (insulting to Fani Willis also) and harmful. End rant.
    R

  11. On the analogy of social media and the printing press that Snyder makes. Gutenberg made his Bible in the mid-1450s. It was a revolution of its own in making high quality formal books in large quantities-but they really resembled formal medieval manuscripts in all important ways. About half a century later (roughly the distance in time between ENIAC and the World Wide Web) there started to be innovation in format–using the printing press in its own idiom rather than for emulation of the work of medieval scriptoriums.

    The one that’s important here, is the small pamphlet or tract, usually printed on a single sheet (4 to 8 -maybe as many as 16-pages per side). It might take a day to set the text in type then a day to print 200-500 copies. Fold-fold-trim-stitch and you have a whole raft of pamphlets for sale and circulation.
    Thus, around 1500 or so, there was this new medium that is very analogous to Twitter – and the first REALLY viral text was Martin Luther’s 95 tweets that he posted on a public bulletin board at Wittenberg Cathedral. It really was viral-printer/booksellers would grab a copy, set it in type for their own press and send out another 200-500 copies-repeated over & over.

    I’ve seen a lot of these tracts and the emotion and accusations are much harsher than anything I’ve seen on Twitter, they would even make the folks on 4-chan blush.

  12. Exaggerated self-regard is the real epidemic in 2022. When did it become politically incorrect to criticize people who don’t know what they’re talking about & what follows from it, who fashion their beliefs from how they’re feeling or from their wish-lists?

  13. I can relate! I was much worse in 2016/17 when I followed a crazy who I thought had an inside track to the “intelligence community.” This particular aspect: people paid to sound like experts and fire off things to say, should be added to critical thinking curricula in high school and college.

  14. Thank you, Teri! This is an excellent article covering how the psychological impacts of our media universe affect and distort societal perceptions. That universe includes social media, traditional media which often seems to be relying more heavily on opinion these days, and niche media sources which play heavily to their audiences often distorting kernels of truth into rabid fictional rants. At least the reputable media sources often label their opinion pieces as such.

    Twitter in some ways seems to be the worst of all capitalizing on immediate emotional reactions to whatever happens with limited, almost headline-only information flow given the limited tweet length. Articles like yours are far more valuable because they get into the details rather than just boosting a headline. And while I understand that tweets can be chained to provide a fuller picture, the character limits still make that information flow very choppy and disjoint.

    On protecting a tweeter’s identity when challenging a tweet’s content, is that really necessary given tweets are out there in the public sphere? They are aimed at a public audience after all.

  15. The following is a fear I’ve held for for more than a decade, at this point. I was in the professional software engineering space long before the internet and retired well after it’s popularization.
    “The consumerization of the internet will be judged as one of the worst decisions mankind has made”. Consumerization is vastly different than commercialization.
    DarpaNet -> educational usage -> commercial usage -> Microsoft had a sufficiently stable consumer product they could include TCP/IP stacks with it. Simultaneously Bell Companies gave way to CLECs (competitive local exchange carriers) -> ISPs VOIP allowed people to have a internet drop at their home -> reflecters, attackers, poppers, et al.

  16. Jeffrey Williams

    Great comment. I am reminded of a recent Twitter “discussion” (okay, argument really!) featuring TikTok users defending the short form instructional videos over the longer form (i.e., YouTube) instructional videos saying that they prefer to get the information they need quickly and move on. We have developed a type of societal ADD aided and abetted by technology. The problem is, sometime you don’t know what you don’t know. For example, I have been a Tudor and Renaissance history buff since I was 9 years old. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched recent videos where there was a lot of factual information with some bits of misinformation or just plain wrong information mixed in. But based on comments on these videos, either nobody mentions it or they just don’t bother. I’m sure many people walk away thinking they know all the facts, but never bother to further investigate. But that would require deeper diving, which again, our society (and certainly social media) does not support. It’s easier for people just to take the information they glean at face value and call it a day.

  17. Ah, but a major difference is that they could not use their new media to instantly connect with large numbers of other people who shared the same beliefs and anger. In the 1600’s, Alex Jones would have been ranting on a street corner in a village somewhere handing out pamphlets. Thanks to the internet, he instead commands an audience of millions. Same with the QAnon phenomenon.

    The internet helped democratize information – and that is good (my opinion) but it also allowed anyone with a computer to spread disinformation and conspiracy theories worldwide. The power of the vast commercial database that has been compiled on each of us, and its ability to be widely accessed, makes it easy for those seeking to weaponize disinformation to target vulnerable individuals. I don’t have a solution for this but believe it is a very dangerous time for democracies.

  18. Attackers arent necesarily try to undermine democracy or anything beyond the target, they simply are acting upon emotion, most people are, like they say do not attribute malice when incompetence will do…. And Im my opinion the later is more dangerous than the former

  19. It didn’t. Popping the words “politically incorrect” incorrectly to endorse one’s self-dealing opinion is just… popping.

    Anyone who uses “politically incorrect” in this way is suspect. The whole idea of political correctness is to save lives by not demonizing human beings.

  20. Many thoughts in response to this piece, but for now: re: “As an aside, this popper is calculating the statute of limitations incorrectly: The statute of limitations may not have expired if the crime is ongoing, so we don’t know whether this will be charged. It may be. It may not be, depending on the DOJ’s strategy.)” was especially impactful to me b/c the legal truth/the ‘why of’ & the “it may be, it may not be,” are what seem to be what all of the above ‘experts,’ non-expert’ reporters, commenters, etc often driven to avoid–ie those details MUST BE AVOIDED/ignored/danced-around—b/c without avoiding those variables & caveats, and w/out providing the public with nuts/bolts of investigative & legal processes/what’s required by law to be known or to happen before something else can happen, differences in historical incidents that looks similar, etc–there is no adrenalin rush, anxiety-relief, scape-goat to whack, chance of fame/authoritative-professional esteem, emergency to rise to, side to pick, $$ to make, etc. We could all use a few factual (non-biased) 60 Minutes episodes that simply describe how the processes work & why things take longer than we might expect &/or don’t result in our expectations, using examples from this & other instances. I hope they call Teri!

  21. Also,I saw much of what this article describes in the media’s reports & expert opinion pieces related to the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard case–a group of YouTube channel lawyers, working in various law specialties–most of whom originally thought JD would lose & that AH had been a victim–streamed/watched the ENTIRE trial in real time (some actually attended the trial in-person Xs many days) & so they could simultaneously educate viewers on the law re: civil vs criminal suit; difficulty of proving defamation of a public person vs non-public person, the counts included in the suit, why evidence was permitted/excluded, discovery process, how/why’s of court proceedings–re: witnesses/testimony/hearsay/cross-exam/rebuttal, a jury selection/jury rules, domestic violence & sexual violence law, choice of State to file lawsuit, UK law differences/judge not jury, etc as well as, many of the lawyers hosted discussions in between court days in which the lawyers showed specific clips & debated their legal opinions, etc. & provided legal reasons for opinion they gave. Meanwhile–none of our traditional media’s reporters attended much of the trial, let alone the entire trial, but they issued opinions, mis-tweeted facts, left out important details in their reports, often simply reported from another source’s report, etc–just as this article describes happening with the DOJ’s situation. These lawyers were then demonized by traditional media for successfully doing just what Peter Arenella described he’d hoped to be doing: “…educating the viewing audience about complex…law issues.”…& they also found to their dismay that “TV legal commentary usually legitimates whatever TV producers view as the current audience consensus about some high-profile case.” They were horrified, as all of them (as a result of spending HOURS of witnessing the entire trial), had changed their original opinion of neutrality or presumption that AH had NOT defamed JD to that she HAD in deed met the criteria of having used malice to defame him (they were surprised, tho that he’d won All the defamation counts), & all agreed w/jury that punitive awards were called for. I, myself didn’t know much abt either of JD/AH, but watched the trial to learn abt how a civil case works. By the end of the trial, I was doubly dismayed at 1) public & reflective media presumptions re: female always right re: perpetrated domestic violence & men can’t be victims of it 2) unethical/disinformation by traditional media’s (espec. NYT, NBC, W.P, etc) reporting on the case, on DJ, AH, on allowing misrepresentation of UK case as AH’s case (vs the Sun’s), AND false headlining those YouTube lawyers out to be using the case for personal gain/$$ (some did make lots, but only b/c their numbers grew as people discovered their education/explanation-based coverage). I was very shocked by those attacks on the lawyers hosting YouTube channels, & dismayed/in despair that the truth wasn’t being sought & reported upon by what used to be considered high quality journalists at largely trust-worthy news/media sources.

  22. Your approach seems measured/balanced, rational, and has, to my view, a ‘let’s wait and see all the facts unfolding’ first b4 jumping to conclusions and expressing knee jerk views.

    Teri Kanfield (TK) is absolutely on target as she implies the issues b4 the American judiciary and the public are extremely complex, many seek to obscure the facts with various forms of convolution, and patience, self-control and faith in right-acting democracy respecting conduct will bring unification out of this immensely chaotic era.

    Thx, TK, for the Marcus Aurelius quote. I’m off to avoid joining the ranks of “the insane” with much help from your blog.

  23. @Meredith re your remark about the steady (unrelenting) drip of misguided opinions especially when a majority shares those views: I am linking your comment here to the Marcus Aurelius quote TK introduced. Specifically, you seek to avoid the majority push, simultaneously skipping over joining the ranks of the insane. Me, too! Here, here!

    I am especially encouraged when people pull out courage and bravery from their lives’ tool kits and try to make sense and weed through the nonsense, kerfuffle and shenanigans of public life and its discourse. TK’s blogs etc. helps immensely. Cafe Insider, a podcast, (Preet Bharara) is another fact-based educator/legal interpreter.

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